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GETC - Geotec, Inc. -- Clean Coal Technology

Started by greatday8, September 22, 2005, 04:43:56 AM

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TecEnergy Pennsylvania, Inc. was formed to recover "alternative" energy by the reclamation and mining of waste coal piles in Pennsylvania. There are many millions of tons of waste coal materials deposited throughout the State which currently pose an environmental problem and yet offer the opportunity to provide un-captured and much needed energy.

TecEnergy will process this waste material in an efficient and environmentally acceptable manner to recover valuable energy and in doing so will provide an environmental solution to the surrounding area.




What we do

TecEnergy Pennsylvania, Inc. will approach the remediation and recovery of energy from waste coal piles in three different stages.

1. We will recover the lower BTU value material from the waste piles for provision to local power generating stations that can use and mix the material to create a satisfactory fuel.

2. We will recover the more valuable material from the piles using screening systems that allow us to select particular sizes of higher BTU material that can be used as fuel.

3. Subject to appropriate permits and regulatory approvals we will use technology to maximise the value that can be generated from waste coal. Technology will be used to create a valuable fuel or to generate "green" electricity in an environmentally friendly and acceptable manner. It is envisaged that the provision and implementation of such solutions will allow the Company to generate valuable tax credits that have been created by Government.



TecEnergy PA
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I talked with Bradley once, in April 2006. Early July I tried several time to catch Bradley, but he was out of the office in meetings and traveling. When the CEO is traveling a lot, it has to be good.

Bradley said if shareholders read the filings they should expect the company to be working on several things and find some answers.

Highlights:

1. It will take time to put the deal together.
2. They have identified coal sites. 4 sites at the time. Did not clarify if they have the rights to or own the coal.
3. They have a target of number of sites they plan to have coal rights and own.
4. Agreements call for a starting number of tons per day and growing to a much larger number.
5. Each site can have several revenue streams from the same pile of coal:
a. coal
b. crushed coal
c. gasified coal
d. fertilizer
e. dirt from the washing of coal
f. ground - sell the land after cleaned up
g. Coal that is too small or not usable for other purposes can be made into powdered coal

Brown fields is the current coal system. Geotec wants to make them Green Fields. There are 1.6 million people living near the waste coal piles and facilities. Geotec will take each of its sites, remove the coal and clean it up.
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Shares issued and outstanding:
210,956,723 shares of common stock as of March 21, 2005
210,956,723 shares of Common Stock as of August 15, 2005
212,840,058 shares of Common Stock as of November 15, 2005

Posted by Woodschoo on my GETC board on ****:
Investors Hub - GETC - Geotec Thermal Generators, Inc.**(GETC)
See post 551 - "called ta 161,696,725 is os"
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http://gettopstocks.blogspot.com/2008/04/why-coal-could-spike-in-10-days.html

Why Coal Could Spike in 10 Days
By Ian Cooper | Saturday, April 26th, 2008

China coal inventories are down to a 10-day supply.
For a country burning through more coal than the U.S., the E.U. and Japan combined, that's bad news.

With country reserves at 46 million tons, as of Thursday, it only enough supply to last maybe two weeks. Some regions, like Hebei only have enough reserve to last a week.

We're talking about a country where 70% of its energy is generated by coal-fired power plants. Lucky for China there aren't any big events coming up that'd attract millions and put extra strain on the country's power grid.
Phew! That would've been a disaster.

Oh... wait.

According to China officials, the country "is likely to be short of 10 gigawatts of electricity generating capacity by this summer," meaning that brown-outs and severe power shortages could be commonplace for millions watching the Summer Olympics.

But this shouldn't come as a shock. The once abundant and reliable source of energy is in short supply and under high demand. And if you think the 50% rise in coal prices over the last five months was bad, just wait. It'll get worse.

More than 40 ships are waiting in Australian port waiting for coal deliveries, slowed by rain. China and Vietnam banned coal exports. India demand is up. Blackouts are common in South Africa and the Indonesia island of Java.
But while it's bad for China, it's great news for U.S. coal companies, which are predicting that global coal demand, will outstrip supply by 25 to 35 million metric tons. Coal consumption could rise 74% by 2030. India alone is expecting for its current annual demand of 460 million metric tons to quadruple by 2031.

That's great news for coal company earnings potential.

Digest that and we'd recommend keeping an eye on Arch Coal (ACI:NYSE), which just raised its dividend, and the Market Vectors Coal ETF (KOL), which tracks the performance of a Stowe Coal Index that includes 60 global coal production and transportation companies.

Sure, not every one is thrilled with coal. Eco-friendly friends worry that increased carbon emissions will put Earth one step closer to the grave. But we're investors. We're trying to make you as much money as possible in the shortest time possible.

Ian L. Cooper
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Apr 27th, 2008, 08:39 AM    #1310 
Chris123
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That's a tough question because it depends what the end users specs are. At each power plants the specs may differ according to the need of that particular boiler.
Here's a sample spec from here: http://www.globalcoal.com/standard/seaspecs.cfm (May have to register to see?)
Shipments must conform entirely to the quality specifications shown below:
For Shipments originating from: RB AUS COL POL RUSS
Calorific Value (kcal/kg NCV) 6,000 6,000 6,000 6,000 6,000
Total Moisture (as received basis) 12% (max) 15% (max) 14% (max) 14% (max) 14% (max)
Volatile Matter (as received basis) 22% (min) 24% - 35% 31% - 37% 26% - 35% 26% - 35%
Ash (as received basis) 15% (max) 15% (max) 11% (max) 15% (max) 15% (max)
Sulphur (as received basis) 1% (max) 0.75% (max) 0.85% (max) 1% (max) 0.75% (max)
HGI 45 � 70 45 � 70 45 � 70 45 � 70 45 � 70
Nominal Topsize 50 mm 50 mm 50 mm 50 mm 50 mm
IDT (degrees celsius) 1,250 (min) 1,250 (min) 1,250 (min) 1,150 (min) 1,250 (min)
Calcium Oxide in ash (dry basis) 12% (max) 7% (max)

Remember, Geotec can pretty much tailor make the coal to meet the desired specifications needed. Some coal may be 75.00 coal while some Ultra high specialty may be 300.00 or more.
Custom coal can be traded as shown below:
http://www.globalcoal.com/custom/customcoal.cfm

CUSTOM COAL: SUMMARY
27 April 2008 02:34 PM London Time


Producers and consumers can run true real-time, quality-adjusted auctions and reverse auctions. Unlike many other systems of this nature, globalCOAL's Custom Coal System has been designed specifically with the coal industry in mind.

A typical reverse-auction might proceed as follows:

The consumer prepares suitable tender / RFP documents and invites its preferred or pre-screened suppliers (either known or identified through an online pre-qualification process) to participate.
The selected suppliers download the documentation (quality and delivery specs, contractual terms etc.) from globalCOAL's secure web servers.
Each supplier submits requested information (typically quality and an opening price) via the www.globalcoal.com website
During the anonymous and live onscreen bidding, the suppliers are ranked according to their relative competitiveness on a quality-adjusted basis. In addition to their pricing, suppliers can tweak their submitted quality specifications during live bidding and this will be evaluated in real time according to the buyer's evaluation formulae.
The consumer awards the contract to the lowest evaluated bid when the pre-defined event duration expires.
globalCOAL's Custom Coal System is highly customisable to meet the specific needs of the client. Specific features of the Custom Coal System include:

Real-time quality adjustment for calculation of evaluated prices.
"True" real-time transmission of incoming bids/offers (i.e. if a supplier in Australia types in a price, a competing supplier in Colombia would see the Australian supplier's (evaluated) price appear automatically on their screen within seconds.
Detailed records are compiled during bidding to ensure a fair and transparent market.


What I have learned on my visit to the sites is that during the cleaning process the bio-refinery seperates the coal coal even down to the highly desired "Coal fines".  
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Apr 29th, 2008, 05:24 PM    #1346 
Chris123
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Geotec and TTI are NOT wasting any time getting this monster up and running. Here are a few pictures of the last couple days, on my trip to some coal sites.......These pictures are from the Birmingham, ALabama TTI and Geotec sites. I never knew there were so many sites scattered around this country. IMO.......this is much bigger than I imagined.









Lots of coal everywere!!!
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 Apr 29th, 2008, 10:11 PM    #1353 
Chris123 
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You're right.....that is Rick Lueck in the picture also the president of TTI and you also see the backside of the guy who probably made more money controlling the old "29 tax credit" machines before it ended 12/31/07. Information on TTI as many of you know is not very easy to find. TTI is a private company but ran about 1/3 of all the 29 tax credit machines....making Billions of dollars in revenue. Riding around for 2 days with these guys was mind boggling to put it mildly. They were not there to do the usual negotiation type meetings I'm use to hearing or being a part of. The deal is done! Now, the money has come to the table so to speak and some of the coal sites were picked out and Geotec management is telling them what is needed. To give a quick example of what went on.........Geotec arrives at a clean coal site that has recently been shut down and tells them what they can use and what they can't use. Then tells them what is needed and the phones are picked up calls are made and the equipment is on its way. Some equipment is coming from other sites in other states, while some equipment is ordered new.
I can tell you this! This contract is for 10 site but IMO this is just the tip of the iceberg with TTI. The new 45 tax credit paying 6.00 a ton is somewhat an incentive for these guys and they all believe it will be extended next year but they are already talking many more sites down the road, as this is just the start. Let me clarify here: The 45 tax credits will run for 10 years (that's why the 10 year contracts) but the facilities have to be placed in service (Producing and selling coal) before the end of this year. One of my questions was "How long will it take to get each site up and running?) There response was around 5 or 6 weeks.......that is why they were on the phone immediately ordering equipment to bring in for the fast set up.

Something else I want to stir up here before I fall a sleep.........We or at least I thought the coal to diesel (that is mentioned on the web-site) was something WAY WAY down the road...WRONG!

Bradley is advancing on ALL fronts and in ALL directions at the same time!!!


This is what I drove to the site.




A lot of this equipment will be removed (NOT NEEDED) and measurements were done making sure all Geotecs Mix tanks, biorefineries........will fit.


Lots of slurry that NO one knows what to do with........ ::)









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Apr 29th, 2008, 10:13 PM    #1354 
Chris123
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Just another quick note.........there are 1000's of these old type wash plants scattered around........most have shut down or do just enough production to keep the permits up and current. Guess who can come in and get them up and running?

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Apr 30th, 2008, 12:52 PM    #1396 
Chris123
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Since I mentioned earnings and revenue...........If TTI and Geotec produce and sell coal in the 5 or 6 week projection I was hearing, do you all realize we have instant revenue in the hundreds of millions this quarter.....in tax credits alone? Then you can add the sell of coal or other products to those numbers.

There many people out there that know as much or more than I do about Geotecs contracts and the meaning of them.........and I'm sure those that know are buying this up "slowly" to gain as many shares as they can from those that just don't understand.

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May 1st, 2008, 08:04 AM    #1415 
Chris123
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Let me start off by saying this, trying to calculate the earnings and revenue Geotec will make this year is crazy at best. But, we can take a guess using ONLY the 10 TTI sites.....but that leaves more revenue OFF the table IMO than on it.

The coal to Diesel I will leave out because their are to many unknowns...but we do know 1 ton of coal will produce 4.5 barrels of diesel (42 gallons per barrel) that is 189 gallons per ton.....at about 4.00 retail per gallon.
Equals LOT OF REVENUE!


The 45 Tax credits (refined coal) are something we can learn and understand.
1. A facility as defined in the contract is 20 million tons of coal.
2. Tax credits are a little more than 6.00 a ton.
3. Tax credits are paid out at about 75% upfront for 10 year period.
4. Tax credits are paid when first ton of coal is sold.

So, ONE facility = 20,000,000 tons of coal and getting 6.00 per ton upfront.......
20,000,000 X 6 = 120,000,000 X 75% upfront = 90,000,000 per facility X 10 facilities =900,000,000 in revenue in tax credits alone.

Also, my 6 week projection may be wrong.......things may progress faster for the small facility you saw the pictures of. May be up and running in as little as 15 to 25 days. This facility is somewhat limited as to space and is projected to produce 125 tons in and netting 100 tons an hour out........this particular coal is 80% recoverable. The PA site as an example is 1/3 recoverable i.e. 3 tons processed nets 1 ton of coal. Also, the coal being cleaned at the Birmingham small site has a value of 105.00 per ton.

There is a much bigger site I toured the following day but I used a different camera...I thought I was driving but ended up riding with others and forgot my camera and haven't received the pictures yet.

The 2nd site and most others will process from 400 tons an hour to 1000 tons an hour.

Back to calculations of coal.

100 tons net an hour running (lowball) 10 hours a day......giving a total process and shipping cost of 18.00 a ton selling coal for (lowball) 80.00 a ton.
100 X's 10hours = 1000 tons daily X's 62.00 net = 62,000 per day revenue X's 5 days = 310,000 X's 4.33 weeks a month = 1,342,300.00 of annual coal revenue. (1 small site)

400 tons net an hour machine at other site = 1,342,300.00 X's 4 = 5,369,200.00 annual revenue.

If we use an average of a 400 ton net machine at 10 sites only (TTI ONLY) 53,692,000.00

Subtotal
TTI 10 sites 400 ton an hour machine: 53,000,000.00
45 Refine coal tax credits 10 sites: 900,000,000.00
Total 953,000,000.00 X's Geotec 20% =190,600,000.00
Geotec 20% TTI 80% (Since TTI insisted on funding this deal).
Net revenue 190,600,000
Shares Outstanding 255,000,000
Earnings per share .75
X's a PE of 15 = $11.25 per share

Now, do I think this will happen? NO

TTI will want to do many more sites, probably a 100. And we can't forget Geotec will have sites of there own and the splits will be reversed where Geotec gets 80% and TTI gets 20%.

And don't forget TecEnergy, and I'm sure many others we'll hear about shortly.
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May 1st, 2008, 05:32 PM    #1464 
Chris123 
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A PR is very unlikely.......we received one around April 9th after the last 8K, some here have brought that up comparing Geotec Inc. (2005 new business model) to the Old Geo-thermal Generator company that they invested in prior to that. The last PR before the April 9th 2008 was back in March 2007 so some of the old disgruntled shareholders now see their chance to sell and move on. This is a positive development for all concerned IMO.....most have not done any DD on the new business plan and have the unusual opportunity to break even or make some profits from old investments, that they considered themselves perhaps bagholders!!!

What I believe we are seeing are the shorts trying to cover as the price gets pushed up from investors that know what is going on. For those that read charts they were saying to sell back in the teens.....and 99.9% of the time they would have been correct. Maybe once in a lifetime there comes along a real company that can break out of the penny world and IMO this one is that company........Well, maybe a few more did it like TASR if memory serves me.

Anyone thinking about buying in should read through the thread and do some DD.

I never answered your question........I think it all depends on the short term share holders.........Most of the shares the Longs have will not be sold anywhere near these levels. But, for those that bought in not really knowing what is going on will sell.........but in the end the PPS is heading NORTH for a while. IMO
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May 1st, 2008, 09:48 PM    #1470 
Chris123
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JMHO but I believe we will see more 8K's concerning additional contracts first, then followed by a PR the same day so the guys in Europe will know it.

As for the hundreds of millions "tied to the tax credits" it is very likely that the time frame will be more like 15 to 25 days and then an interview would be my guess.

As for the sale of any additional coal assets.......Geotec is in the coal business and that is not PR or 8k worthy as that is expected in the coarse of business. (But, I'm not talking about "Refined Coal" here but just coal assets).
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May 2nd, 2008, 08:00 AM    #1477 
Chris123
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You have missed my point and that's what I had intended the reader(s), that were nervous about the gains this week. If you would have copied my entire post it would have made more since. There are shareholders here that apparently have not done much, if any DD on Geotec Inc. Some post as if this is another momentum play or PR pump and dump play they are use to playing in the penny world. I would rather those short term players take their quick profits and move on while the naked shorts are buying back shares they can't resale later, thus putting the shares in long term investors hands at soon to be very cheap prices. We read once in a great while about stocks that have 10000% gains but how many investors made those type gains? Most would have sold out at 100% or less and a few at higher levels. How many Geotec shareholders sold out in the teens making quick profits and now are waiting for it to fall back to re-enter, only watching it climb to higher highs?

We had 2 weeks of consolidation before this pop up and yesterday for a moment the ASK hit .505 before sellers or MM's came in to filled the gap. The best scenario for this now is to consolidate again making the weak hands sell as the "haves" take from the "have nots" or maybe better put the investors that "Knows" takes from the ones that "don't know".

And if you don't think there are many that NEED SHARES then stay tuned as this unfolds. GL
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