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  And now a post with the potential bright side  this is from a post on a very calm board. 



Just spoke with Scott for about 15 minutes.

1. C-Trade deal is still being discussed because they've added to the transaction.
2. He will most likely release a PR in the first couple weeks of October highlighting developments (revs, etc.) in the first quarter of 2005. (june - sept)
3. I expressed concern about the pps decline. He realizes that the swings in PPS are there, but he said he hasnt really looked at the stock lately and doesnt really care. I then asked if that meant he doesnt care about PPS in general. He was quick to respond that he does care, as he owns 40 mill in shares, BUT the reason he doesnt really care now is because by their own appraisals and projections the stock price at current co growth rate (im guessing he is referring to the sales in the first Q and the growth in the past year, and the projected sales and orders for products) that he has a "price target of $3.00-$5.00 within 2 years" with the current share structure plan. When he refers to the "improving shareholder value" he is referring to a longer timeframe than most of you are thinking of. (1-2 years)

For those of you who read my posts I dont bull&*$, there is money at stake, lots of it, both for me and for alot of people on this board and elsewhere. I feel much better after talking with him again, and I think all of you should feel encouraged to call and speak with him (his number is listed on the co website).

  BTW, just another example of the nonsense the last few days. I tried more than one putting in small orders slightly above the ask just to test the monkeys running the show, and they didn't fill...another guy said he put in an order for 200K for .028 yesterday 10 minutes before close when the ask/bid was .029/.028, and they wouldn't touch his order but did fill an order for .026 from out of nowhere.  The moral I see here in my short pennyland experience is, if you are in this for mid/long term potential, you best be ready to see alot of these shows along the way...I prefer to sell on highs and buy on dips, but sure missed this one......a listing would help I suppose....which leads me to this question for anyone...I've seen people saying a listing can take as little as 3 days after all filing is in....but Aussie seemed to say it usually takes much longer...I'm really new in pennyland and don't have a clue....anyone w/experience here care to speculate on how long for this company from where they are today?

For all the TA junkies this is a 61.8% retracement.
Fibonacci says we will drop 61.8% from a high then retrace.
0.021 was about it,bouncing off this today.

An email reponse from Mr. Sand to a member of another board:


Email from CEO Scott Sand IGTN

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I sent an email to Scott inviting him to be a guest speaker one day in chat. This is his reply.





I have NO control over the direction of the stock. However, the above day-traders can create emotional reaction and cause shareholders to sell their positions.

Let's dissect this situation:

1. Ingen Technologies commences business in 1999 as a PRIVATE company, incorporated in Nevada, after thorough research on OxyAlert and OxyView. We invest well over several million dollars to actually build and place over 200 production models of OxyAlert (formerly known as BAFI). Inclusive of extensive research, patent searches and patents.

2. Spector & Wong (Auditors) keep very accurate records of all financial activity (Filing all tax returns with State and Federal Agencies from 1999 through the current), and the management continue to invest their own money towards R&D and operational expenses.

3. In 2002, Ingen decides to create Secure Balance, as a means to increase actual sales and earnings in order to "think ahead", and continue to feed R&D and operational expenses. Again, the management INVEST their own money and launch a national sales campaign with Secure Balance. There are sales in 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005.

4. In 2004, Ingen decides to go PUBLIC, and merges with a public shell (Creative Recycling Technologies, Inc. - OTC:CRTZ, a Public Georgia Corporation). The merger requires that Ingen pays off various debts associated with CRTZ in the amount of $277,000. AGAIN, the management pay off the debts with their own money, thus keep tangible assets and earnings untouched for the sake of stronger financials for SEC Filing. In addition, after the debts are paid off, CRTZ now owns 100% of Ingen Technologies, Inc. (the Nevada Corp), and management approves to rename CRTZ to IGTN, and also rename the Georgia Corp to Ingen Technologies, Inc.

5. In 2005, IGTN, now a public company OTC:IGTN:PK engages Spector & Wong to perform the audits, engages attorney Richard Weed as council to assist with the corporation reorganization, and engages attorney Peter J. Wilke to perform the SEC filings, and move to the OTCBB.

6. During this process, the Company continues to provide up-to-date news to shareholders and investors. The PR's include exact information (as received by the auditors and legal council) so as the investor and/or shareholder can actually verify the same, easily.

7. In 2005, Ingen completes the audits; showing increased profits and no debt. (2005 was lower in revenues than 2004, but profits were higher in 2005 !!!).

In summary, IGTN and its' Management have delivered a "Profitable" company with proprietary patented medical products (with management investing their personal money); as well as invested over $150,000 in accounting/legal costs for SEC filings and continues to move forward in SEC Filings and move to the OTC:BB.

I, personally, do not pay any attention to "message boards", nor do I watch the stock from a day-to-day basis. You should consider that very few PINK SHEET companies are in our position, nor do they offer such frequent news to its' audience. The day-traders, market makers and shorter's are paid to twist, distort and take out of context any/all published news. Further, if you called the auditors, lawyers, advertising agencies, Investor Relations Firms, and many other entities engaged by IGTN of which we have published their names, address and telephone numbers, you would find that the naked-shorters (i.e., the predators on the message boards who continue to scare everyone with deceit) will be out of business very soon; as you will find that Mr. Pete Wilke will submit the SEC Filings within the next 2 weeks. IGTN will be a REPORTING company soon, and this will force the "shorter's" to cover their positions. IGTN will be on the OTC:BB very soon, and within the next 2 years we should be listed and trading well over $5 per share.

If you are in this for the short term, I sympathize.

PLEASE POST THIS, AS I STAND STRONG AND CONFIDENT !

Regards,



Scott Sand, CEO & Chairman
Ingen Technologies, Inc.

[email protected]
www.ingen-tech.com

800-259-9622 Sales & Support
800-777-1186 FAX
951-675-3266 Administrative

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Tue, 09-20-2005, 11:34 PM 

$3-$5 stock in the near future he said.  Just keep adding on the dips and I thank the shorts or whomever for bringning it down, so I could add more to my position.  This is one of five long stocks that I don't look at everyday. Not worried in short term.

Good luck to all.

QuoteI've seen people saying a listing can take as little as 3 days after all filing is in....but Aussie seemed to say it usually takes much longer

Seems they are already well down the road with their application and filings. They started the process sometime during 2005 I know not when. If you have auditors and legal team who know what they are doing and your filings are clean, on time and correct then the timeframe can be a lot quicker.

  Thanks for the reply, Aussie....with your input and what I've read from IGTN, they should be close. 

 

Fibonacci Retracement 61.8%

  Tons of mirror trades today on IGTN...what is this nonsense anyway? The mirror trades finally stopped on PBLS today and the stock stabilized and had it's first up day since the explosion. I just put in an order for 500 IGTN shares at the ask .023 just to see how it would show up on the T&S....it showed as 4 trades of 500 shares each. I am suspicious that most of the volume today is feigned....what kind of illegal nonsense is this...anybody with pennyland experience care to speculate? 

I don't know what kind of nonsense we have going on!
It makes you want to" run for the door"!!

   Naaah  I think Saffey is right....there is some motive, no doubt illegal, behind this nonsense.....I saw the same with PBLS....must all be part of the pump/dump schemes with these pennies...but PBLS trading resumed normalicy today and is heading back north. I think and hope the same happens w/IGTN...I haven't RFTD yet.  If the right news comes out it can explode to new highs very fast, I feel...I'm still holding and waiting...but I wouldn't buy more until the monkey trading show is over.

  Here's a post from a guy who says he's a Dr...as best I can tell, he first heard of IGTN a week or so ago on the radio, has did alot of research and talked to Sand...I believe he just started buying on the way down the past week...anyway, here's a post of his in answer to someone, trying to cause panic, asking if anyone had actually seen the products.

   anyone interested in trying secure balance?

you should do your own DD...

The Company has contracts with major neurology and chiropractic based
advertising agencies to publish Secure Balance(TM) layouts within their core
journals. Further, the Secure Balance(TM) products will appear at the 58th
Annual Meeting for the American Academy of Neurology in April-2006, and more
recently the Secure Balance(TM) products were invited to be debuted at the
International Academy of Chiropractic Neurology (IACN) Annual Symposium on
Palmer's Campus in Daytona Beach, FL on October 13-16, 2005. "We would like
to invite your company to send a representative to address our group for 15-30
minutes, followed by Q&A by our panel of experts. You are also invited to set
up an exhibitors booth if you so desire." Said Dr. Ferezy, DC, FIACN and
President of IACN.
"Our Secure Balance(TM) infomercial is easily accessible from the Company
website, and will spread like wild fire among the medical industry. We expect
an increase in Secure Balance(TM) sales and this will certainly feed our
growth when we are listed on the OTCBB." Said Scott Sand, CEO & Chairman of
Ingen Technologies, Inc

I will be at Palmer's campus.

There is a great need for IGTN'S products.

best regards

who is taking a beating on this stock .....should have sold...

  Today, the tactics seem to be putting tiny sell orders in at bid or below to bring price down, and big buy orders, which have no affect on raising the price. Have seen almost no mirror trades so far. But this has clearly been manipulated in several ways. I have learned alot on these penny manipulations watching this and a few others. I'm down too, but my feeling is this will be cut loose when the scoundrels get what they want...so I'm not panicing or RFTD. I think it will turn soon. 

I'm fairly new in pennyland, but actually, I think if you would watch the T&S and bid/ask and some message boards known for pumpers/dumpers, my guess is you would begin to see this manipulation in both directions on many of these pennies. My guess here is when they get what they want at the price they want, they'll let it run again...but I wouldn't necessarily expect this to be the last time it happens...pink sheets, from what I've seen so far, seem to be fertile ground for this nonsense.